Comments on: A Jump To Inquisitive Consular-clusions

By: Deidare

Deidare — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:06:30 +0000

Ohh… Frank carful. That’s a DH equivalent of saying Baltimore in harry potter. It’s the not to be spoken of word.

By: Logun

Logun — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:57:35 +0000

Well I for one really think you guys here at DH are doing a great job and have help me to have a greater understanding the game BW and LA are producing, the community here seems a bit more sane then on the official forums.
There are some off the wall people on the official forums that jump to some extraordinary conclusions but mix in one part avid MMO fan and one part Star Wars fanatic and that’s one volatile fan base …,I wonder if BW know what they got themselves into…LOL

I too had my momentary disappointment over the last two class reveals but now that I have a clearer vision from the new info released, I really like the idea.
I think it opens up a ton of possibilities and story elements to explore a class that uses the force to enhance the power of the mind rather then the physical.

I think a lot of us have our minds made up that a Jeti is a Jeti and a Sith is a Sith and therefor there is no room to split the class. But I think that is being too narrow-minded considering how deep the lore is and with Bioware reveling some of there thought processes on how they made their minds up to put in the additional force users I agree with them 100%

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:55:23 +0000

Well, there’s nothing wrong with criticism – don’t get me wrong. This article was meant to get people to take a step back, think about the conclusions they are making, and wait for more information. If you want to criticize, it’s totally fine – just have as much information as possible in front of you to make that judgment so people understand what you are talking about.

Now, with the release of info we received here at Darth Hater, you have more of that material. So now you can formulate a better opinion than before. Heh.

By: Reliant

Reliant — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:32:48 +0000

Agreed, I’ve largely abandoned attepts for participating in civil coversation in the general discussion part of the forums for the reasons you cite. I hope devs can protect themselves from the waves of unfounded negativity, without filtering out well founded concerns.

By: Fedaykin

Fedaykin — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:04:02 +0000

That’s how I thought about it, exactly!

Though, there’s a downside. Don’t forget it will attract a LARGE crowd which will host a good ammount of people you really do -not- want to be tanking or healing in your group.

Anyway it’s been 12 hours hasn’t it? No wait, one more hour.. *continues tapping F5*

By: LegacyForceFan

LegacyForceFan — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:33:48 +0000

Yeah, PST time. Unfortunately.

By: ItzaTrap

ItzaTrap — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:15:02 +0000

It’s Dec. 3rd EST, are we going by PST?

By: Xavier

Xavier — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:11:25 +0000

T-minus 10 hours and counting. C’mon guys, no countdown clock? I know you have us counting down for you, but it’s not the same.

By: Team

Team — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:04:57 +0000

putting the tanks and healers on the most popular classses is a stroke of genius. if they make it so tanking isn’t different from dps and cc and healing go hand in hand it may lead to the end of the lack of tanks and healers in games.

By: Boza

Boza — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:20:12 +0000

Yep, it’s set for 12:00 a.m. PST, which is 2 a.m. my time, adjust for your time zone, or just know that it’s now less than 11 hours away.

By: Fedaykin

Fedaykin — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:48:22 +0000

Is this right. 12 hours from now?

(Posted at 21:49 my time – good grief I’m terrible with time differences etc)

By: Boza

Boza — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:44:39 +0000

Less than 12 hours to go… must… hold… on… *sets alarm clock*

By: emlaeh

emlaeh — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:28:14 +0000

-1 for even mentioning Twilight!

By: emlaeh

emlaeh — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:18:53 +0000

My initial reaction to the NAMES of the classes without knowing anything about them was this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx_ZU-qRD1Q

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:13:22 +0000

Just be glad he didn’t use Twilight. That would have been a -1.

By: emlaeh

emlaeh — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:11:31 +0000

You would’ve gotten +1 if you used Underworld instead of West Side Story.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:25:01 +0000

I had a similar experience. I wasn’t thrilled with the two choices but meh, c’est la vie. My main was always going to be a Smuggler so what did I care? Also, I like healing classes so maybe I’ll roll a Consular alt. Also, the “which class will you play?” poll on the TOR forums is amazingly balanced. After almost 1300 votes, six of the classes fall between 10.5% and 11.5% of the vote. With the Jedi Knight at roughly 18% and the Sith Inquistior at 16.5%. If we could get a server that balanced, it would make for awesome PvP.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:09:48 +0000

I too have been following this game since it was mere rumor and myth, and the suspense is killing me. I’m at work and trying to concentrate on anything non-tor related is turning out to be a wonderful exercise in futility. I’m very much looking forward to what ever it is you gents have in store for us.

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:11:10 +0000

That’s pretty much the crux of the post, and why I wrote it. Part of it is really not just being a veteran of MMOs but of forum discussion as well, where people go nuts over as little as two sentences from a developer.

As for opinion, community perception, and the like, the folks here at Darth Hater are well aware of all that, and I think there are good things ahead for the site. So stay tuned!

By: DarkTater

DarkTater — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:01:49 +0000

Ahh, but this game isn’t Knights of the Old Republic Online, it is Star Wars: The Old Republic. Just because KotOR was all about the jedi did not mean that everyone was expecting the same with this game.

It will be interesting to see where they go with the last two classes. I have to say I am disappointed (not real interested in playing a jedi class), but I am trying not to get to discouraged until they release more information.

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:56:03 +0000

I have a deep connection to Warhammer Online as the current Site Manager of Warhammer Alliance, so I feel you on the Mythic front. Regardless of how you may feel about the game, the people there really care about it and making it a success. I think the association with Bioware helps things, becasue they can better anticipate reactions like this in the future.

By: Dover

Dover — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:52:29 +0000

I’ll say more in about…. 17 hours lol

By: Dover

Dover — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:51:10 +0000

“Order 67″…. I like that lol

By: Fedaykin

Fedaykin — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:41:18 +0000

The second purge? Would that be order 67? ^^

Apologies, sillyness. I hope they’ll give SW:TOR a chance before running off on a few rumors too.

By: Fedaykin

Fedaykin — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:38:44 +0000

Perhaps what I’ve asked and you’ve answered has taken away all doubts the community of darthhater.com may have about your neutrality and objectiveness.

In all honesty I only understand it now.

Thanks for making this sacrifice. Because I can vividly imagine what it must’ve been like to forcefully shut yourself up while all you want to do is yell out the truth when everyone’s unhappy and you know they don’t need to be.

By: Dover

Dover — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:35:19 +0000

You are talking about what I would call the “Second Purge”. The first happened back when everyone got to see game play for the first time. When a project is in such a young state people start imposing all of their greatest fantasies into what they want the game to be. When we saw game play a lot of people left and a lot of new people joined. The 8 final classes are going to do the same thing. Many will leave and many will join.

I just hope those leaving are do so for the right reason. I’ve stopped playing plenty of games and don’t want any gamer to have to “put up” with anything. Games are inteneded to be enjoyed. However, I’m worried that some gamers may be prematurely signing off on a game they could very well enjoy without having a clear picture of what is around the bend.

By: Dover

Dover — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:29:02 +0000

Ding! Just 18 more hours to go (give or take)

The official forums have been impossible for me lately. There are a great many things that I wish I could comment on and I simply can’t. I’ve been following the game since it was only a rumor and being unable to talk about it has been killer, but this allows us to bring you guys a very specific, focused comentary on want you want to know, not want the general gamer audience wants to know.

By: Flagg

Flagg — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:27:32 +0000

We can only hope. ^_^

By: Sleeper

Sleeper — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:23:45 +0000

The NDA is lifted for the media on Dec 3rd, what this post was meant to do, I believe, was to tell everyone, some things are taken the wrong way, and before you make a snap judgement, just wait. There will be a lot of clarifications on the third, that may make you change your mind on some things completely. Our main, and only, focus is The Old Republic, and not a wide spectrum of games. All media sources have differing opinions, and take information differently. We completely understand where you are coming from, and most of us yell at the forums because we cannot clarify anything until Dec 3rd.

By: Fedaykin

Fedaykin — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:15:46 +0000

Don’t forget the two infinites: The galaxy and the stupidity of mankind.

Everyone running away crying simply because two classes where a disappointment is noone that will be missed. I just HOPE all this negativity will not bring BW and LA down in their originality. There’s still the silent mass that loves this game and plans on buying it the day it’s out.

I was disappointed too, but I took things in perspective and figured “This is the only way”. Now I’ve started to adore the choises made, especially since alot of hints are saying that the Sith side won’t even have a healer. So the kick I got out of SW:TOR – the fact that you might actually be able to complete this game without a default setup simply by being clever players, is still there.

I say give it a month or two. Everyone will be used to the idea. The ones that can’t handle it will have left. The other half will have gone my way and settled with the choises made.